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Canada Goose Online The wacko rabbi piles onI developed a much thicker skin over the 3.5 years I been posting here, so it no longer bothers me when the faithful, or faithesits, go after me in print. And so I look on with equanimity as the Wacko Rabbi takes me on. Yes, Alan Lurie, real estate manager and part time rabbi, has taken umbrage at a two part post I wrote about him (here and here). You remember Lurie: he the guy who argued (at PuffHo, of course) that atheists need psychoanalysis for not believing in God the face of much blatant evidence. The was, to Lurie, the signs of a beneficent and ingenious creator that we see all around us. response is pretty much of a mess, and I don want to waste precious electrons reiterating arguments I made previously, for I stand by what I said. On issues of physics and fine tuning, Lurie goes after me instead of Sean Carroll, whose critique of Lurie I simply inserted into my post. Carroll saw Lurie claims as not only wrong, but incoherent. Lurie further argues that he never proposed a God of the gaps, when in fact he did (read his original post). Check out this cognitive dissonance:And we are still left with such clearly designed, and incredibly complex, mechanisms as DNA and the brain.This is not a of the Gaps explanation, any more than looking under the hood of a car and deducing a designer is of the Gaps. To postulate a random, undirected, meaningless, existence in the face of this unbelievable complexity and purpose of life is, in actuality, the much more irrational, and less logical, conclusion. This has been compared to proposing that a hurricane whipped through a junkyard and randomly assembled a jet plane.If that not saying that things are too complex to have evolved, ergo Yahweh, I don know what is.In canada goose outlet in new york his response, Lurie once again insists that the concept of an anthropomorphic god is childish:Finally, again Coyne vision of a God tells us of his literalistic view. I personally do not know a single believer (over the age of 5) who thinks of God in such childish terms. If that how Coyne thinks that all believers experience God and that this is the ONLY way to conceive of God then no wonder he cannot see that science and faith are partners. As his blog clearly demonstrates, though, this is his limitation, not religion or faith the rabbi information, I never described the Abrahamic god as referred to Freud as a misguided, God. But that is beside the point. The point is that many believers see God as anthropomorphic, and not just stupid believers, either. They include theologians like Alvin Plantinga, as well the many liberal believers who think that God has human qualities like benevolence and knowledge. Here, for example and I indebted to reader Myron for finding it is a quote from Plantinga on the nature of God. It comes from his and Science entry in the Stanford canada goose uk site Encyclopedia of Philosophy:»[T]heism is the belief that there is an all powerful, all knowing perfectly good immaterial person who has created the world, has created human beings ‘in his own image,’ and to whom we owe worship, obedience and allegiance. God, according to theistic belief, is a person: a being who has knowledge, affection (likes and dislikes), and executive will, and who can act on his beliefs canada goose outlet ontario in order to achieve his ends.»Tell me, Rabbi Lurie, do you consider Plantinga beliefs childish and immature? Remember that he a respected theologian who was once president of the American Philosophical Association. And he well over the age of five. If Coyne does not believe in the Divine, how can a pipeline exist? Second, there are in fact immature and mature levels of spirituality, just as there are for emotions and intellect. To conceive of God, the Creator and Sustainer of Everything, as only a physical being that is fully described in a human document and that exists completely outside ourselves is in fact immature like a child thinking that electrons are little spinning balls. Those who have directly experienced a hint of the spiritual realm (which is all we can glimpse) across many traditions share remarkably similar understandings.inconsistent I was asking Lurie how he is so certain goose outlet canada about the nature of God, and how he knows that God isn anthropomorphic (after all, He made us in His image!). My query was boutevidence. Lurie canada goose outlet authentic assertion that I have no right to query because I an atheist is totally irrelevant.And his response is the canada goose outlet buffalo one the faithful always give: we just know how God is, because lots of people concur: who have experienced a hint of the spiritual realm… share canada goose outlet uk fake remarkably similar understandings. Really? Try telling Muslims, devout Catholics, and evangelical Protestants that their God is Is the God of the Bible not anthropomorphic? He jealous, angry, vindictive, sometimes loving, egomaniacal, and fond of people kissing his rump all the emotions we think of as human. And I shouldn have to point out to Lurie canada goose outlet toronto location that agreement among people is not itself evidence of truth, canada goose outlet london particularly when it a agreement among revelations.Two more points. Lurie, who claims to know something about science, says this:.. yet when I suggest that someone who adamantly refuses to even consider the hypothesis of a canada goose outlet las vegas Designer in the face of what certainly appears to be deliberate design is in need of psychological help, the same person is offended. It is cowardly to throw a punch and then whine when hit back. Plus, note Coyne blanket dismissal of psychoanalysis and Freud, ignoring the shelves of evidence that psychoanalysis works.May I suggest to the good rabbi that scientists now reject the idea of a designer not because we deliberately ignore the possibility, but shades of Laplace because we no longer need that hypothesis. Scientists once did consider the hypothesis of God He was supposed to be responsible for organic design, for instance, as well as for keeping the planets in orbit but we since found that natural processes https://www.pick-canadagoose.com are actually responsible for these things. Over time, scientists have found that considering the God Hypothesis doesn advance our understanding of nature one bit, no more so than considering the Leprechaun Hypothesis. canada goose outlet store new york So we don canada goose outlet location consider it any longer.As for psychoanalysis, there tons of evidence that it doesn work (Freud famous cases, for instance, produced no cures), or at least doesn work any better than any other interaction in which one pays to talk to people about one problems. Other forms of therapy, such as cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), have been shown to have better results, and they last a much shorter time and cost a lot less. Psychoanalysis is based on a flimsy edifice of lies and unsubstantiated claims, and, as everyone knows, it beginning to fall apart. There are few analyists left, and Freud theories are much in disrepute.But I digress. This is about science, and psychoanalysis isn canada goose outlet trillium parka black science. (If the rabbi was really interested in curing atheists of our delusions, he recommend CBT.) It about whether the idea of God enhances our understanding of nature, and it doesn It also canada goose outlet vancouver about whether Lurie is the one anointed person who truly understands what God is like, and that just hubris and nonsense. There is no argument he can offer to show that his understanding of God is better than, say, William Lane Craig needn address Lurie other points because his piece, at least to anyone with two neurons to rub together, is self refuting. Besides, Lurie commenters are, as usual, taking him apart.But reader Sigmund has provided a humorous PhotoShop take on the kerfuffle. Recall that canada goose outlet factory Lurie sells real estate, and you might recognize the building:you believe what I said, then I have an Atheist Temple I like to sell you. He has bad arguments, let just debunk them. I think Jerry has done quite a bit of debunking the arguments.On another hand, it is all in good fun. We have this jerk Rabbi talking trash including junk science and intolerant psychoanalysis of us atheists. Frankly this is depressing. It is horrible that anyone like this exists and yet many do exist and some of them have blogs. Without some humor like Sigmund picture, I think this situation would be intolerable. It just a laugh, all in good fun.On one final hand, perhaps most important, we basically have a scientifically illiterate architect telling a bioligist how the universe works and who created things. Lurie doesn know what he is talking about. Biology is not his field of expertise and yet he is spouting off anti science online. Jerry has every right to say dude, you are an architect, not a biologist. I a biologist and what you are saying is canada goose outlet near me wrong. You don know what you are talking about, stick to real estate. And Jerry has ever right to call out Huff Po for given a real estate agent a Religion and Science blog.As for the philosophers and theologians getting sniffy, they usually do so in the way canada goose outlet shop of saying atheists are so philosophically illiterate or spiritually immature that you can possibly understand what we are talking about. and fail to try canada goose outlet usa to explain themselves clearly. Which suggests that it is the philosophers and theologians who don know their stuff, as otherwise canada goose outlet why not just explain it. It is also ad hominem, you can say you propose is fail because you are an ignorant canada goose outlet 80 off person. Jerry Coyne in his blogs and books has gone out of his way to explain biology to laymen, has taken a fair bit of time explaining to Lurie why he is wrong. Jerry never once said Lurie is canada goose outlet in vancouver wrong because he was an architect, rather he pointed out how badly Lurie got it wrong and mocked him for being an ignorant architect who blogged all this wrong stuff.Atheists shouldn use the ad hominem fallacy of is no god because theists are stupid. or whatever. But when a theist says stupid stuff, we CAN call a spade a spade and criticize his ignorance.Oh, goodness, you have no idea of the (very high) level of cognitive dissonance of Lurie. He once wrote a blog at canada goose outlet florida Huff Po called canada goose outlet legit of an Angry Atheist where he pulled the same exact psychoanalysis crap with atheists, only to apologize for canada goose outlet eu it with a follow up the Conversation blog where he apologized and called it atypical. He fancies himself a nice, tolerance, civil liberal. Clearly psychoanalyzing atheists is quite typical for him! He also once wrote in the Existence of God Ever Be Proven? that God is not a hypothesis. And here he is recently claiming that atheists won even consider the God hypothesis. The guy is all over the place.I think there is a serious misconception about atheists and evolution that needs addressed: people think we atheist believe the universe was created canada goose outlet uk sale randomly because we deny intelligent design. I think it should be obvious to canada goose outlet online store review ever atheist here that that just a false dichotomy. We don believe the universe is purely random but rather governed by non purely random natural processes. But for whatever reason a LOT of believers think that is precisely what atheists think. If that (the universe is random) was what atheists though, theism would be far more rational! But atheists don think that. We need to do a better job of explaining this. I think Dawkins explanation from The Blind canada goose outlet boston Watchmaker video is the best explanation I seen.In this post, Lurie points to a previous HuffPo bleargh of his for those wishing to know who / what is and the evidence to support said claims. The relevant paragraph: Canada Goose Online.

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